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 Post subject: Lion
PostPosted: 2011-07-22, 06:52:10 am 
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Anyone dare try OSX Lion yet with their Mlan config?


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 Post subject: Re: Lion
PostPosted: 2011-07-23, 12:31:48 pm 
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My understanding is that Lion no longer allows you to boot in 32 bit mode. I have confirmed this though. If so, then mLAN is officially incompatible with Lion. Let's hope I'm wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: Lion
PostPosted: 2011-07-24, 11:24:02 am 
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I have a correction. I went on and read a review on Lion. Apparently it still can boot in 32 bit mode. However, since there have been lots of stories of applications not working on Lion (i.e. cubase, protools), I don't plan on upgrading soon.


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 Post subject: Re: Lion
PostPosted: 2011-07-25, 03:33:40 am 
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I can confirm app store download of OSX Lion does allow boot into 32.

So, theoretically, you can run Lion in 32 and use mLAN. First person to test that wins a new yacht. ;) However, be wary. Since Lion does not include Rosetta, the mLAN installation app may not run. Office 2008 has this problem.

My macbook only holds max 4gb of RAM. No need for 64 here for a while yet.

When the time comes though... 64bit OS, 64bit DAW... we would need a 64bit driver, and that's not likely to happen. So, if you really want Lion in 64bit for some reason, you would be saying farewell to your 01x.

On the other hand keep this in mind. Logic 64 already runs on Snow Leopard. Despite the fact the OS is 32bit, Logic itself does have access to the extra RAM. You could stay on Snow Leopard and still get the benefits of 64 with Logic and keep your 01x running as is by not jumping to Lion. So, my feeling is Lion isn't all that exciting for Logic users. But, let's hear from someone if the mLAN installer will work on Lion 32, enquiring minds want to know.


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 Post subject: Re: Lion
PostPosted: 2011-07-31, 09:15:29 pm 
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OK Elmer, I guess I'll claim the yacht! :)

I just got a new iMac Core i7 (SSD + HDD) that came pre-loaded with Lion. I used migration assistant to migrate over from my MacBook Pro (running Snow Leopard) to my new iMac. Not surprisingly, the Graphic Patchbay wouldn't connect when logging into Lion the normal way (which is 64-bit). GP will actually launch, but all of the choices are grayed out (un-selectable). Auto Connector won't even launch.

Anyway, I thought I'd try logging in in 32-bit mode to see if Elmer's speculation that mLan should work in 32-bit was correct. I tried restarting while holding down the "3" and "2" keys simultaneously on my wireless keyboard, but that didn't work (I always ended up in 64-bit mode). However, I tried the same thing again after plugging in an old WIRED keyboard and Shazam, 32-bits-ville! (When restarting, by the time the computer connects with a wireless (BlueTooth) keyboard, it's already to late to be holding down the "3" and "2" keys. Apparently, you must use a wired keyboard with a desktop Mac to boot into 32-bit Lion.)

So now in 32-bit mode, I connected my 01x to my iMac with a FW400-FW800 cable, turned on the 01x, launched GP, and it connected to my 01x! I tried iTunes, Logic, and MainStage and I could get audio in and out of my 01x and control Logic (move a fader on the 01x and same fader moves in Logic and vice versa). Woo Hoo!

I didn't do any real extensive testing, but it looks like everything should work in Lion as long as you boot into 32-bit mode!

Elmer is right (as always).

So, about that yacht... :D

Jay


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 Post subject: Re: Lion
PostPosted: 2011-08-01, 12:30:35 am 
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Well, that's great news, Jay1. So mLAN will run on Lion 32. We don't know if the installer will run, but you have confirmed that you can get the driver and patchbay over with migration assistant. Good news.

So, keep in mind that you CAN run OSX (Lion, Snow Leopard) in 32 mode and still run Logic64. Although the OS may not have access to more than 4gb of RAM, Logic will, which is very useful with things like EXS24.


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 Post subject: Re: Lion
PostPosted: 2011-08-01, 06:16:12 am 
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Elmer, Jay,

Great news there.  Thanks for this.  I simply have not been able to test anything yet in my studio as I have been very busy restoring old files on cassette tape to Cubase over the last week or so.  I restored about 35 old compositions successfully but some of the tapes are Tascam 244 format (7x speed four track) and unfortunatly my very old Tascam 244's tape drive mechanism is shot.  I took it apart over the weekend and noticed that all the rubber parts have turned to liquid!  Black goowie stuff that is virtually impossible to clean!  Amazing.  I didn't know rubber has a lifespan limited to about 30 years...  Oh well...  Those tapes are going to go to posterity unless I find an old functional T244 on Ebay somewhare... 

Now I hope to be able to rescue another piece of old studio technology more successfully thanks to your advances with Lion and the 01X. I'll keep you posted, but don't hold your breath because it will take a few weeks for me to install and test. 

Glad to hear from both of you!


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 Post subject: Re: Lion
PostPosted: 2011-08-06, 11:55:53 am 
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I installed OS Lion on my iMac Desktop and of course immediately could no longer connect to my O1X.
Rebooted the computer holding down 3 & 2 on my wireless keyboard and all works perfectly including Logic 9


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 Post subject: starting in 32 mode every time
PostPosted: 2011-08-06, 03:23:47 pm 
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You can set your mac to boot up into 32 or 64 Every time by opening Terminal (search for it in the top right)

To select the 32-bit kernel for the current startup disk, use the following command in Terminal:

sudo systemsetup -setkernelbootarchitecture i386

To select the 64-bit kernel for the current startup disk, use the following command in Terminal:

sudo systemsetup -setkernelbootarchitecture x86_64

Note: This setting is stored in the /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/com.apple.Boot.plist file and will take effect every time you start up from this disk. If you start up from a different disk, the setting on that disk, or the hardware default, will take effect.


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 Post subject: How to get mLan working with fresh install.
PostPosted: 2011-08-07, 06:20:36 pm 
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Y'all beat me to posting, but I've been running It since release.

Trick is to boot into 32-bit mOde with wired keyboard per above posts.

The installer will NOT work- to get it working on a new mac that is native lion or fresh install:

1) install a fresh copy of snow leopard
2) install mLan drivers and plugins
3) install lion update
4) boot into 32 bit mode

Best,
Dr. J


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